Beta 2 is great. Better than I could have imagined but there are still to few skills and passive abilities. The skill tree needs to be doubled at the very least. Perhaps the typical level 15 "cap" abilities could be expanded to instead inlcude a choice of 2 or 3? Being able to have 90% of the skills at 25 shows that there really aren't enough.

Have the Dev's said anything about expanding the current skill trees furthur?  4 Active skills would have been fine if there were many demigods, but since there are a few (which isn't a problem) it'd be great to see huge skill trees that have a ton of different options and builds, currently the 2-3 cookie cutter builds per demigod (some which play similiarly) is fun for now, but will not keep people entertained for long once they've tried them out.  It'd be great to incorperate a few ideas that are in this forum.  Would be great if the devs could keep us up to date on what still needs to happen in the overall game.

I wouldn't except extraordinary amounts of Dev feedback right now - it's the holidays.

I think it should be most compared to guildwars, magic: the gathering, and dota.  Those are the 3 closest relevancies.

  I edited my main post with how I should think it should work.
  I do not think you should be able to simply change what skills you're using mid-game.  Once you pick your 4 when the game starts, you should get locked ot them.  I basically do agree with Dalzk's points.  While I think this game needs a few more actives to pick from, so you can more build your Demigod, I don't think you should be able to flip-flop around. =]

more moves are badly needed imo, so hopefully gpg/stardock realize

I think there are enough items.  It's just that 30% of the items need to be completely redone, and 30% are too bad.  Only like 40% of them are useful.

well items, to me, suck because you usually get same ones, even demigod to demigod i get similar 3 and maybe two that vary a bit

You do realise this thread and things posted here are over 3 months old ?

It's still completely relevant

Especially sice we never got seperate icon borders for active and passives.  That would of been a nice and simple feature!

2 Reasons why not:

1. You could throw balancing into the toilet. Compare a MMORPG to Dota or DG right now. It's nearly impossible to get all builds of 16 Demigods on the same level. Some builds will always dominate other on a DG. The versatilty will improve far less then the complexity of the balancing issues. But with 4 it should be np. Think about it, 4 Active doesnt mean you have alot less builds. Passives are also full fletched skills and very important. Often some Auras and passives are far better than some actives.

Dota has only mere 4 skills - passives and actives - and still has enough replay value for alot players, which play the game since 4-5 years. As a mere mod. Since DG's got 8-9 skills to choose from there is alot more depth to builds, but it needs more tweaking. The fun thing of these games - right now only dota - are also the change of metagame after updates, and how to adapt to changes and/or to new DG's.

2. As i said already. There is always "The build" for a DG. Most likely because random Pro will use random DG with build X and 99% will follow this build. Or random Pro writes a guide about Demigod X - 99% will follow it.

Its nearly impossible to bring more than 2 builds on a same level. This is because you can't just do the maths of your own skills. You always have to bring them into the context of the most used builds on other DG's. Since you mostly try to counter already effective builds which are in use. This means, having more skills doesn't mean a proportional increase in fun, but definitly in more work for the designers.

Yeah I mean.. GW is so imba with it's 1400 skills.  Sure about half of them are pretty useless, but nothing is really overpowered

Hehehehe GW +1K skills are some of the most balanced I have ever seen. Those are updated almost constantly as people report.

I also do not think that 4 Active ability is enough because it always seem like you need a whole team to take down 1 Demigod. Altough there is variety in the builds it is just not enough. Each Demigod has like 4 ways to play them and not more. But Guild Wars for example has like +20 ways to play one type of class with the secondary one ofcourse.

Yeah.  And in december and january they did an update that completely redid how more skills behave (completely new behavior, not just messing with numbers) than demigod even has.

It shouldn't be hard to add new skills.  Just making new effects.  Balancing them, sure.  But adding new skills will mess up balance anyways so best to just guess what'll work and hope for the best.  Better balance can be added later, as long as things are very overpowered.  Best to jsut start em with what would be underpowered.

I'm not syaing there needs to be 20+ ways to play each class like GW(er there is more than that ), but 3 or 4 basic builds where you'll have variations of based on how the game is playing would be nice.

Personally I like it as is. Id rather them keep the focus tighter and more balanced adn instead of expanding too many abilities to the DG's just release new DG's. Then you get different builds to mess with on a different character altogether. 

As it is when I play some of the characters I do vary my builds enough as it is. I dont really care to have that many more choices. Of course thats just me and you have your opinion as well for sure.